Introducing Lightway, ExpressVPN’s new protocol for a superior VPN experience
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I joined the beta today for Andriod, but it seems it hasn't released yet. Is that right?
Please make Windows version priority. Thank you. Because a lot of advanced users, use ExpressVPN on Windows.
Is it base on wireguard？
It is its own thing!
I'm really disappointed to see you're opting to develop your own protocol ("Lightway") when the next standard protocol WireGuard is already on the way. 😑 Why not invest the time and resources in making WireGuard secure and reliable? Why do you add yet another protocol which further diverses the VPN landscape? The broader community would benefit much more from the investment in Wireguard! Instead, I don't see incentives for (good) guys to review your protocol. What makes it a better choice than WireGuard? And why couldn't Wireguard solve your use case? Please explain. I don't get it... 🙄
Lightway will be open source as well and be able to compete adequately with Wireguard! We'll convince you through speed, security and reliability!
Aside from what Lexie said about Lightway, I think both vpn vendors and users think that "the more the merrier" is an approach to take, In order to lessen the likleyhood of hackers cracking any one protocol, thereby keeping the enduser secure/happy.
looks like the expressVPN people are only trying to establish themselves with "their own inventions", but not building their products with the benefits to the community in mind. if you do wanna convince the so-called / self-claimed advantages of Lightway, do some side-by-side comparison between Wireguard / OpenVPN / IKEv2 / PPTP / L2TP. saying that "lightway is its own thing" is like a joke, it has no weight in terms of security.
Any ETA for Lightway Protocol to be available in the Windows version? Please make it with TCP port as well. Currently, Lightway on Android has only UDP. Thank you so much.
Please make MacOS/IOS version priority. Thank you. Because a lot of advanced users, use ExpressVPN on Apple Device. XD
Agreed!
Two weeks passed and no new beta for Windows that has Lightway protocol. :(
Just a little bit more patience! It's happening!
Thanks for your message. Any ETA? One week, two weeks? I can't wait to test it.
Nice update but why no wireguard? or is it coming to?
When Lightway will be out?
Any updates?
I would also like to know, why not Wireguard? Is Linus Torvallis also building Lightway into the Linux kernel? I very much doubt it. With only ExpressVPN using this protocol will it even be validated by third parties, and without independent verification how do we know that it's actually reliable?
No update about when it will be out? :(
It is nice to know that.
Awesome to hear you're working on improving performance. Looking forward to someday installing it on my router.
I would like to see both the protocols in the app Wiregaurd and Lightway
What about privacy? Like WireGuard, Lightway seems to market itself on increased speed and performance. But e.g. Wireguard is not built for privacy. Does Lightway have more focus on the privacy side of VPN, in comparison to e.g. Wireguard?
Today/27 Aug 2020 my ExpressVPN Android app on my smartphones and my ExpressVPN Android TV app on my Android TV box updated to include the new Lightway protocol. While Lightway does indeed connect much faster than OpenVPN UDP or TCP, speedtesting shows it's significantly slower than OpenVPN UDP (around 20% slower) and about the same speed as OpenVPN TCP. Or at least this was my results today.
Hi Phil, This has been my experience too. I also found Google PLay Store was unable to download updates while connected with Lightway. Could be just a coincidence, maybe not .... Steven
Does it work in China?
Hi, how to setup Lightway in Linux? Will there be a propietary app or can we set it up with open source tools like OpenVPN? Thanks!
Just tried it today on my router. Wow network speed went up about 100 Mbs Can’t wait until the non beta is released
Its only on Android Devices STOP THIS FAKE COMMENTS
Amazing job!!! First beta connects at 180mb/sec , very stable and fast on my Linksys 3200. Old protocol maxed at 45mb/sec. keep up the good work ! Really impressive!
Will users be able to connect without the ExpressVPN client? Like connecting on routers, servers, etc. by manually downloading the ovpn configuration files
Will both the server and the client be open source? Can I deploy my own server, or compile my own client on platforms not supported by ExpressVPN client to connect to ExpressVPN servers?
Does express VPN work on Synology Routers?
Even with this new protocol, I still only get 1/3 of the speed I pay my ISP for. The question then becomes, who am I really wasting my money with? So, this wont change that I probably wont renew my sub.
Whe will the iOS beta include Lightway? there's no denying the current app significantly impacts battery so am eager to try out the new protocol.
Downloaded the latest update just now, and tried to use the new Lightway protocol. My windows 10 computer will not connect using Lightway. It will connect using any of the other 4 protocols.
I have just the opposite, I can connect reliably with Lightway and not the others. Win10 Pro.
I am testing now Lightway, very fast connection setup and on speedtest.net achieved 111 Mbps in downlink. From my location I can also connect via the other protocols. Win 10 Pro and WiFi 5
When is the Lightway protocol coming to iOS in the TestFlight app? Looking forward to this.
When is the Lightway protocol coming to iOS?
Does Lightway’s wolfSSL use TLS 1.3?
Does the fact that the core library of Lightway will be open-sourced increase the probability of getting hacked?
Not at all. It will likely make it more secure.
Open Source does mean that anyone can look at the code and try to find vulnerabilities in it. So there is a downside. But it's generally consider a positive because by the same token, anyone and everyone can look at the code and find vulnerabilities and tell the authors about them. All of modern cryptography is based on this same principle of publishing the algorithms and letting people try to find weaknesses, thus ensuring only genuinely strong algorithms are found. "Security through Obscurity" is a popular fallacy people like to point out. In practice a lot of projects don't get looked at enough so don't gain this benefit. So it's a case of positives and negatives but one very big positive is that with Open Source you can inspect for deliberate vulnerabilities, i.e. backdoors. Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes. With Open Source, we custodiet the custards. Or something like that. This is particularly important in a field like VPNs. I hope that answer helps. I'm just a customer by the way - I don't work for them.
So many good questions but nobody from ExpressVPN appears to be answering them. To me this is disappointing and exemplary of their commitment to "support".
Good luck getting any questions answered. I’m a subscriber and can never get help, even though I’m actually paying for 2 subscriptions. The new paradigm is no support.
Using ExpressVPN V9.5.0 on Windows 10 x64 from the UK and connecting VPN to Washington DC using Lightway. Connects fine, browses ok. Ookla speedtest to a US-based server gives me 48Mb down, 2.6Mb up. With ExpressVPN protocol set to automatic, the speeds are 34Mb down, 1.6Mb up, using the same server, suggesting that Lightway is faster. Will be repeating the tests periodically to see if these results are consistent. James.
Several possibilities at the end of this article: - I like - I leave a comment Doesn't it miss the "I don’t like" option? : )
Doesn't get any better
No idea how to obtain this . Am happy with existing so not really bothered going to the hassle
I had no idea how to access it. Strange they didn't specify how to do it. But I found out if open the Express VPN menu (mac) and select "Preferences" there is an icon for "Protocol" and that's where you can switch it.
I think they did specificy how to start using it. See "Try it out" at the end of this page, right above where the comments start.
I agree with you, While the first ExpressVPN was a simple enough set up on most of our electronic tech products, my husband's laptop was extremely difficult, certainly not interested in going through hours of that again just for an upgrade.
works like a charm on Linux Mint. Connects fast and indeed hardly a load on CPU good job
Hi, after several updates and solving a lot of problems with much patience using your great support I am not sure, what to do with the choice of proposals "Appps", Express VPN, Lighway, Protocols, Technology". I should be an expert and not a simple user pf ExpressVPN for any decision. Kind Regards, Dr. J. Meyer-Wahl
Change my Protocol? What protocol? How? To What? In the information age, it is really hard to get information. Language still matters.
Dr. Frankenstein & Rick: Expertise comes with experimentation, trial and error. The VPN protocols are within the ExpressVPN app. Select one of the five protocols, choose a location, and test your connection speed using Ookla Speed Test. You will find that ONLY YOU can determine the BEST connection. For me, IKEv2 is consistently MUCH faster. Also, the “Smart Location” is not always the FASTEST connection. Lightway, although very close to offering the same performance as IKEv2, slightly trails. UDP, TCP are so slow that they are virtually unusable. Again, you will have to test each protocol to determine what works best.
Since I downloaded the last update I cannot use my email client unless I close Express VPN.
Support will be in touch with you shortly.
Why no iOS...does this mean iOS is not a priority ?
does this work for media streamer?
MediaStreamer gives you fast streaming, but it isn’t a VPN, so it doesn’t use protocols, Lightway or otherwise.
How do I apply this on my DDWRT router? There is no app per se, just OpenVPN settings.
Unfortunately, it is currently not possible to use Lightway for manual configurations.
Are there plans for manual router configurations? A guide to set up with Pfsense and/or Opnsense?
We have one for pfSense: https://www.expressvpn.com/support/vpn-setup/pfsense-with-expressvpn-openvpn/ For manual router configurations: https://www.expressvpn.com/support/vpn-setup/#manual-router
This is for openvpn. What about any manual configuration or just the source for lightway for openwrt of opensense or pfsense?
Lightway is a massive improvement and has convinced me to continue my subscription.
Very Nice 10/10
Was planning to contact you today. The reason was to complain about being unable to watch itv-hub for catch up. Zattoo is great for watching live UK tv. I noticed that Switzerland 2 has disappeared, this was normally the better of the two. I am getting 50Mbps on average from my internet provider. I have found that if I get 10Mbps from your sites, I can watch uninterrupted. But recently the speeds have not reached 10 more 7-8 which results in buffering all the time. So when I got your email telling me about Lightway did a speed test, then switched to Lightway, tested again and I am getting 11-13 Mbps. For the first time in weeks we have been able to watch catch up tv and for the last 3 hours without any interrupts. So thanks from me.
hello Victor, what int.provider do you have? i'm happy to have 3 Mbps, here in the Philippines with globe!
I leave my ExVPN protocol setting at Automatic. Can I assume that ExVPN will select Lightway when appropriate?
This will be the case very soon. For now, most users must manually change the protocol to Lightway to try it out.
where are the instructions for manually changing the protocol to Lightway. I checked my phone is all the options in your app but can't find a way to update.
Here is how to do it on Android: https://www.expressvpn.com/support/vpn-setup/app-for-android/#protocols (Lightway is not on iOS yet.)
I activated Lightway -UDP (preview) via Protocol option -- changing from previous selection of Automatic (recommended). Is this new permanent setting actually a better option than your recommended Automatic setting?
For now, most users must manually change the protocol to Lightway to try it out. But very soon, the "automatic" setting will include Lightway, which will be the chosen protocol in most cases.
ny computer is working faster, but now i get pop ups which i never got before. what to do?
Just testing lightway, did speed test before and after, my speed didn't go up( that's on talktalk) find notice faster connection, still get connection issues with some sights don't think they like you using a vpn.
Je serais ravi de recevoir cette info en français. Je ne comprends que très peu l'Anglais. Cordialement
I have windows & Mac computers Apple devices. Should I wait to upgrade to Lightway until ready for OSI? Will you notify me when OSI-ready.
You could choose to update your apps and switch to Lightway on all your devices apart from iOS. However, it's always a good idea to keep your apps updated regardless. And yes, we will announce when iOS gets Lightway, and we're working hard to make it happen!
I just switched to Lightway, and my Express VPN connected so damn quickly! Bravo!
So, how does this new agreement work in China? Can it be used normally, and can Chinese users use more normally connected nodes in the future? This is something that many people, including me, care about.
I used to have trouble connecting in Iran and it was slower to connect But with the addition of this option, this problem is solved in Windows & android. I have a very high connection speed since this protocol was added And I always use this connection. It is really unique!
My apologies if the topic, of “Lightway for iOS”, has been addressed, however I am limited in scope of my attention, due to a recent injury, limiting the capacity for me to read quickly through a long Comment Thread. I am, however, interested to know when the prospective integration of Lightway, with the iOS platform, is purported to take effect. As this is one of the main reasons I chose ExpressVPN, and rather than going through the process of integrating Wireguard with the App, if possible, or the need to use OpenVPN to achieve a similar result. Even any whispers would even be appreciated, thanks.
Any update of Lightway for iOS app?
It is now available on iOS to beta testers. Become a beta tester: https://www.expressvpn.com/support/troubleshooting/become-an-expressvpn-beta-user/